Minnesota Leads in Modernizing Bar Rules

Hot off the presses:

Men and women can now get plowed on the cheap equally, or not at all: The Minnesota Department of Human Rights is reinforcing an old rule that “Ladies Night” drink specials amount to illegal gender discrimination.


The sobering news comes after [Minnesota Department of Human Rights] charged five Twin Cities bars for violating the state’s Human Rights Act by engaging in “gender-based pricing.” MDHR hasn’t yet named the bars, so don’t rush out tonight looking for them.


Most people would argue (and have argued) that “Ladies Night” is not discriminatory against men, but rather, a male plot to increase mating opportunities. Yet the law strikes down the practice for reasons that have very little to do with the actual nefarious (and arguably sexist, and thus discriminatory) reasons for the practice.

So, is this a step forward for civilization, and if so, does it count if it has happened for illogical reasons? From a purist-skeptic point of view (which may not be the best approach, see: this commentary), this law should be struck down because the reasoning is virtually exclusionary of the relevant logic.


5 Responses to “Minnesota Leads in Modernizing Bar Rules”

  1. June 11th, 2010 at 11:08 am

    Jared says:

    WTF? While I was in college, my roommate, Jon, and I always used Ladies Night as a chance for mock role reversal: have the women buy the men drinks*. I suppose that and the Ladies Night in general is “sexist” in the general sense of gender based pricing, but I fail to see how this is a real issue. I’m pretty certain this is a PR stunt. There are certainly more pressing matters than special discounts for lacking a functional SRY gene. Rather than pay attention to actual issues, do we really need to target bars for having gender-based pricing? This just seems like a bit of a waste of money. The real issue is the gender roles which provide such a motive to have these sorts of things.

    *We did this jokingly since we usually still paid for the drinks vicariously. We gave them the money and had them “buy” the drinks just so they were cheaper. The only real difference was they were the ones actually “paying.”

  2. June 12th, 2010 at 6:44 am

    Heather says:

    Maybe they can get around this by having a “skirt night”, and ladies and cross-dressers get the privileges, even if they only cross-dress for a few hours? Or just throw a skirt over their slacks/jeans? Or why bother at all? Anybody can get cheap drinks during happy hour.

  3. June 14th, 2010 at 7:35 am

    Greg Laden says:

    Is a kilt cross dressing? Is a kilt a skirt in this context? I think no/yes.

  4. June 14th, 2010 at 10:11 am

    Stephanie Zvan says:

    I agree with Greg, but I do have to add that wearing a kilt is a much better strategy for attracting female attention than simply changing the numerical odds is.

  5. June 17th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    Heather says:

    Only because we’re curious if what we’ve heard is true.

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